[203] Other thinkers, for instance Douglas Hofstadter, dismiss this argument as incoherent.[204] Quite a few psychologists and ethologists have argued with the existence of animal consciousness by describing A selection of behaviors that seem to indicate animals holding beliefs about things they cannot immediately understand—Donald Griffin's 2001 reserve Animal Minds https://chancehkyih.bleepblogs.com/36540963/the-lion-of-the-tribe-of-judah-fundamentals-explained